English to French translation

Proofreading translations

September 3, 2009

I had an excellent dinner at Brasserie Blanc on Tuesday night, but I was very disappointed by the quality of the menu's French translation. Time to call a professional translator to the rescue? Menu translation is extremely tricky: the vocabulary linked to food is so rich, precise and culture-dependent that an in-depth knowledge of both cultures and languages and real terminological expertise are necessary to do a good job.

Regardless of the quality of the translation, which seems to "forget" a lot of the English, this menu contains a number of mistakes, which betrays a total absence of proofreading. I've already talked about editing and proofreading, which I enjoy: finding the odd and inevitable mistake in a colleague's work is like a game and it can be extremely satisfying to add a missing "s" or to spot an incorrect verb agreement. It is extremely technical and needs to be approached methodically: this article on Interactive Training give lots of useful tips. I particularly like number 11: to stop the typos, read backwards so you're not distracted by the meaning of the text.

So, how many mistakes can you spot in the French translation of the menu? I've also included one particularly "invisible" typo in my own text, can you find it?

Comments

I think I've spotted your deliberate typo: The last sentence in the first paragraph should read, "... an in-depth knowledge ... IS necessary to do a good job."

missing 's' in 'give' in 'this article on Interactive Training give' :-)

Well, no, the subjects of the verb "are" in that sentence are: "knowledge" and "expertise", so a plural verb is appropriate.
I think the typo is in the penultimate sentence of the penultimate paragraph:
: ...this article on Interactive Training give lots of useful tips."
The subject of the clause is "article", so the verb should be "gives", not "give."
Do I win? Do I? Huh?

and "this article on Interactive Training GIVE lots of useful tips"

as for the French,

aux pêcheS
truite grilléE
salade de poire grilléE
and I think there is something wrong with "mange touts"

Well done jean-paul, Linda and dvee! Ahem... you found the inevitable unintentional typo. The deliberate typo is still there. And Linda, good effort but I can see more mistakes in the menu. Good search everyone, I'm off to bed now.

legumes d'été > légumes d'été

glace á la vanille > glace à la vanille

Can't find your "invisible" typo, but then you did say it was invisible :)

Neij

I think you meant to SPOT a typo, not to STOP a typo.

BTW, I loved this blog post! Very fun and creative. :o)

Is it "to stop the typos"? I tried to read it as "spot", then wondered if you really meant "stop"... and just ended up confused!

Not a typo but a point of grammar: I'm not too keen on the 's' in 'the menu's French translation'. I'd say "the French translation of the menu" as there 's is a grammatical marker indicating possession (the menu does not possess/own anything).
Likewise: there are several translations of the novel by.. (not novel's translations)
Check-out http://anglaisaparis.com/paris-my-city/eating-drinking/english-translation-of-french-menu/

2. seems to "forget" a lot of the English -- >> seems to 'leave out'

@jean-paul: As a very picky native speaker of English, I'm not sure I agree on those two points. The second one, where Céline wrote 'seems to "forget" a lot of the English', I don't think she MEANT 'leave out', I think she MEANT '"forget"', with inverted commas - almost as a euphemism suggesting that the translator (I use the word loosely) couldn't be bothered to translate some of the trickier bits!

On the first point, "the menu's French translation", I think this is more open to debate but there is nothing grammatically or idiomatically wrong with it if you put the stress (when speaking, or reading in the mind's ear) on "French". I think, though, that I would have understood "the menu's French translation" to mean a separate sheet of paper rather than individual translations interspersed with the English. (Perhaps the translator saw them more as glosses rather than full translations!)

Can I ask about "cat's tongue"? I assume this is a little biscuit which I have only ever heard referred to as "langue de chat"!

Neij

Well done everyone, and particularly Paula and Kyla. It was "spot" the typo, not "stop". A tough one to spot.

@neij + @jean-paul: neij saw it right, I did use "forget" with a hefty dose of irony, but I suppose it could be read in different ways. And would "the French translation on the menu" be a better option?

@neij: yes, cat's tongues are biscuits, the closest British equivalent I can think of is shortbread, only cat's tongues are denser and thinner.

The other mistakes:

poire grille → poireS grillÉES (although poire grillée would also be ok)
Parmesan → parmesan (although I think this may be debatable)
mange touts → mange-tout (invariable)
truite grille → truite grillÉE
legumes → lÉgumes
pêche → pêcheS
á → à

to Neij: thanks

1. definitely : spot (i.e: detect) the typos, not 'stop'

2. yes 'intentionally' forget

3. menu's: open to debate. It'll be interesting to have other readers' opinions.

Any English grammar professors about? (I dont' mean: English grammar's professors ;-)

4. langue de chat: finger biscuit

une friandise faite de chocolat fin de forme oblongue, portant le nom d'une création du chocolatier belge Galler[1], / un petit gâteau sec.

I've never heard of chocolate "langues de chats", but they sound delicious. These are the ones I'm familiar with: http://douceursexquises.canalblog.com/archives/2006/05/13/1870751.html

A cat's tongue (one per animal)
Cats' tongues (still one per animal, but several animals) as in: cats' tongues are rough
--> 'cat's tongueS' looks odd but I guess one biscuit is a [cat's tongue] i.e generic, so many biscuits are [cat's tongue] + plural S = cat's tongues

It's interesting to note that, in French, the plural of une 'langue-de-chat' is des 'langues-de-chat' (no 's on chat)

I love this post!! I thought I was the only one enjoying myself with menus and their mistakes...actually we're quite a lot ;)

I find it fascinating how often the writing and translation of menus is sloppy.

I'm sure that somebody can be a culinary expert without knowing how to spell but as a restaurateur wouldn't you want to put your best foot forward? Is it that they don't know, don't care, or can't afford better?

It can't be that they can't afford it. Monsieur Blanc is highly successful and the translation of his menus would be nothing to his empire's budget. I think it just says a lot about the general disregard for language. In other words, they don't know and they don't care.

I'm reminded of a Fr --> Eng 'translation' I once saw on a rstaurant menu in the Alps, where "assiette fraîcheur" was rendered "plate of freshness"!

I feel the same frustration every time I read an English 'translation' of a French menu here in France. Restaurant owners don't seem to understand that foreign diners are scared to order things that sound really wierd. In one Japanese restaurant, "maki avocat" was listed as "Lawyer maki", I kid you not.

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